A rifle

[Kurt]

I just don't like.
It's one heck of a fine shooter but it's just to heavy for my liking.
I build this rifle as a 25# Tollofson and I had Shiloh use my 17 twist .44 Kreiger barrel because they did not want to change the gears or didn't have a 17 twist button. The barrel is 35" long and 1.3 unturned diameter unfinished because I felt it would keep it cooler than a blued barrel when the sun hits it.
I just don't shoot this rifle for the reason mentioned above.
I been thinking turning the barrel down to get it at 12#. Have any of you had one turned down a heavy barrel and have you seen any changes in accuracy doing this with the same barrel just turned down and shortened 5" ?

[beltfed]

Kurt,
How old is the barrel blank you got from Krieger.
For a good number of years now, now, John has been Cryo Treating his barrels before and
( think ) after boring and rifling.
If it is a Cryo'ed barrel, not much chance to hurt the accuracy by turning it down.
best to as Krieger. HOpefully you know when you bought the barrel.
Arnie

[JKR]

I’m thinking about all the cuts and turning that’s required to make a heavy M1A barrel. Krieger made lots of them. Still does I assume. They certainly are accurate.

What is a Tollofson rifle?

JKR

[Kurt]

Arnie,

I got the barrel blank around 2014 but I cant say for sure.
I had Kirk re barrel a Shiloh with it.

Jim,
Here is an original Tollofson rifle. http://www.shilohrifle.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19669

[Kurt]

I just looked at the pictures and I see the date stamp April 2013 so it had to been around 2012. I have to dig out the papers from the safe.
The the target on the right I shot on my range in the yard when I got the rifle.

[beltfed]

John Krieger may very well have already installed the Cryo equipment by 2012 or earlier.
So, I would not be overly concerned about your taking that Tollofson barrel down some.
A skilled machinist should be able to do it slowly and carefully going round and round "back and forth"
on opposite barrel flats

Actually, I am thinking about getting an Obermeyer 260 Rem heavy target barrel turned down to make a hunting rifle of it. I just have not got the interest to do anything in HiPower competition with it as it is now.
Arnie

[JKR]

John Krieger may very well have already installed the Cryo equipment by 2012 or earlier.
So, I would not be overly concerned about your taking that Tollofson barrel down some.
A skilled machinist should be able to do it slowly and carefully going round and round "back and forth"
on opposite barrel flats

Actually, I am thinking about getting an Obermeyer 260 Rem heavy target barrel turned down to make a hunting rifle of it. I just have not got the interest to do anything in HiPower competition with it as it is now.
Arnie

Arnie,
I don’t know if you remember Kirk Schliefe. He did exactly that with one of my take off 260 Obermeyer barrels. He had Randy turn it down and chamber it for 6.5/06. He put it on a Remington. The thing shot absolutely fantastic.
Kurt,
Thanks for the pictures. Now I know! Big ass rifle!!
Jim

[beltfed]

Jim
Yes, that has been done with many old target barrels. My 260rem barrel started out as a 6.5x284 that a friend high up in F Class, as in US Team, etc.
I had it set back to get to a fresh throat and rechambered for a Savage action . Never even got it into a stock.
Now, a hunting rifle if I get around to it.
Otherwise I will sell it as a target barrel.
Arnie

[Kurt]

I'm in my 80's I should probably leave it Tollofson class weight to keep the felt recoil down. It is a very mild recoiling rifle with the 2.6" long case. But in time I might not be able to carry it from the cart to the line . I had a three wheeled gun cart and if I didn't have a couple hundred rounds in front of the cart it would tip over backwards.
But this rifle has always shot well.
When I switched over from the old Bell brass to Starline I shot a whole 100 round box full of rounds fitting the annealed cases to this chamber and only 4 or 5 rounds went outside of the group and I used PP bullets undersized so I could shoot them with out fouling control except for an occasional blow in the breach or down the muzzle.
Maybe I should just leave it alone. For long range matches I don't have to shoot it off hand.

[JKR]

Kurt,
It’s an awesome looking rifle, and as well as it shoots, well.... I know that you know that great shooting rifles don’t just come around every day.
You could rig up a caisson and a team of Shetland Ponies to bring it to the line. Your spotter would need to hold the team while you shoot.
Jim