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RE: Norma or Jamsion for 45/110 - Lumpy Grits - 05-05-2015
Kurt-Are you FL sizing??
I FL size my brass, but have the Lyman die set to only reduce the fired OD buy .002-.003" at most.
I only have Starline for my .45-90. Never an issue-
Gary
RE: Norma or Jamsion for 45/110 - Kurt - 05-05-2015
Gary.
The brass only gets sized one time from a .45 to a .44 through the case forming die. The chamber is tight so a bullet that is patched one thousand over bore diameter I can turn the case upside down and the bullet will not fall out.
When that brass is reduced down the case walls should get thicker. The brass that separated in the center is less then .005-6 thick. At the case mouth the brass is .0094 thick to .0102"
I have not split any of that brass yet new or used to get a cross section look at it.
RE: Norma or Jamsion for 45/110 - Lumpy Grits - 05-05-2015
How many firings of the brass in the picture?
Have you cut and measured a newly formed case, to compare to the separated cases for wall thickness?
Gary
RE: Norma or Jamsion for 45/110 - Don McDowell - 05-05-2015
This last batch of Starline 2.4's I got a couple of weeks ago are all over the place in the web thickness, some of them sized down just fine, others hung up so bad going thru the 44 size die, I wasn't sure the thing was coming back out. Not sure if they'll shoot worth a poop or not..[/i]
RE: Norma or Jamsion for 45/110 - Gunlaker - 05-05-2015
Kurt are your cases stretching any as you shoot them? In my 2.4" rifle I thought I had my stretching problems solved, but I was wrong. My PP loads, lube cookie or wads stretch 0.005" per firing. I've been trimming and annealing them before each firing. I'm waiting for my first separation, but I don't think it'll be Starline's fault when it happens :-).
Don all of my Starline 2.4" cases are all over the place in rim thickness, and hard like a rock before annealing, but they do seem to have close tolerances on interior volume. I keep a really close eye on powder stacking height and am happy with them that way.
Chris.
RE: Norma or Jamsion for 45/110 - Kurt - 05-05-2015
Gary I said it was the last run. I cant give you a day unless I dig out the receipt, March-April.
RE: Norma or Jamsion for 45/110 - Lumpy Grits - 05-05-2015
Wonder what has happen'd to Starline's QC then.
The 500, .45-90 cases I got from them a couple of years ago are right on spec for rim thickness and pretty uniform in volume.
Sounds like a call to Starline is in order. Hope they do the right thing.
Gary
RE: Norma or Jamsion for 45/110 - Gunlaker - 05-05-2015
I think they have good customer service. A number of years ago i bought a bunch of .45-70 Starline brass from a vendor at a local gun show. The rims were all under 0.060" thick so they were useless to me. I called Starline and they were more than happy to replace them for me. In the end I traded them to a friend instead as the import/export paperwork made it a pain.
If you buy enough brass I think you'll eventually run into touble with any brand. I have a bunch of bags of Remington .45-70 brass with very shallow primer pockets. Too shallow even for a pistol primer to seat flush, but not by a lot. Remington said to send them back but I've found that by deepening the pockets they work perfectly in my .40-65 with pistol primers.
Chris.
RE: Norma or Jamsion for 45/110 - Lumpy Grits - 05-05-2015
Wouldn't it be sweet if Starline offered our BPCR cases with large pistol primer pockets?
Gary
RE: Norma or Jamsion for 45/110 - Don McDowell - 05-05-2015
Be nicer if we could take the good folks at Captec into that project..