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Dan T's last bullet design - Don McDowell - 07-07-2015
Our good friend JB from down under, got ahold of one of the 44 caliber money bullets moulds from BACO. It was the last bullet design Dan T is known to have done, it is expressly for giving a dependable 1000 yd grease groove bullet in the 19 twist Shiloh barrels.
Hopefully we'll get to see some test results sooner rather than later.
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RE: Dan T's last bullet design - Kurt - 07-07-2015
Yes it will be interesting to see if that long nosed bullet will stay on mark in the winds and long range. One good feature of that bullet and that is the shank is longer then the ogive and this should help with the slower 1/19 ROT.
Don I finally had a chance to put the .44-77 on sand bags for getting 100 to 250 yard scope settings for the Buffalo hunt this fall. Man what an eye opener I got shooting this rifle with the scope. I always shot it well with the barrel sights at all of the Quigley targets and the close 200 yard paper. I had some left over from the last Buff hunt that were loaded with 75 gr of 2F OE and the original sharps bullet cast @ 480 gr with 1/30 T/L. After getting on paper at 200 I tested the windage adjustments by moving 2.5 mimutes to see how it reads on the paper and it moved 5" cant ask for more then that.
The good part, at 200 yards the group was as large as the 2" orange sticker I shot at
That my friend is good enough for a behind the ear shot.Kurt
RE: Dan T's last bullet design - Don McDowell - 07-07-2015
My original Sharps bullet is the one that I shot at Alliance, 5 out of 6 on that 500 yd circle and same on the diamond with no sight settings to start is nothing to sneeze at.
This bullet is very much like the postel slick I copped from rdnck, and had Brooks make to the 1.3 in length. It saved my bacon at Raton in the wind.
I'ld like to give this bullet a run at the 1k line in crappy conditions.
RE: Dan T's last bullet design - Kurt - 07-07-2015
Don
I favor the long radius round nosed bullets. Not so much the Gov. true round nose but the originals that Sharps, Remington and several other popular manufactures used back then the flat nosed lever rifle bullets.
This year at the Q I used a 461 gr GG parker hale bullet and shot a 31 using it dropping 2 hits at the 800 yard Buff and it took two more shots to find it and lost two from wind calls and only hit it twice. During practice I had no problem with the 800 but those where loaded with 3F OE but I did not have enough for the match so I used 1.5 and 2F KIK. I ran all 8 on the 600 and 8 on the diamond. The flat nosed and the longer radius round nosed bullets are the easiest to control in winds I find. The year I shot a 41 I used a postell type nose in some tough winds.
If you shoot the long elliptical nosed bullets you better have a tight ROT to keep them on paper at the K line.
Kurt
RE: Dan T's last bullet design - Don McDowell - 07-07-2015
Kurt I had Brooks make that new postel nosed slick to 1.3 inches after it finally dawned on me that was the exact length of the original bullet Brant Selb sent me. It saved my bacon twice once in Byers and the second time at Raton on the 1000 yd line, when the longer bullets were absolutely laying over and dying in the winds.
I've also set the length on both the original copied 2 dimensional bullets to 1.3.
The 16.5 twist shoots the 1.35 bullets very well, but I have not shot them to 1000 yet. I am going to pick that rifle up in a day or so, and when I do I think I'll mount the irons on it and see just how well it and it's new set trigger will behave at the 1k line.
This new bullet of Dan T's design should shoot very well in all manner of conditions, when my mould gets done I'll cast some from 16-1 to see if they'll make weight for Creedmoor, and start with about 77 grs of OE 2f and a .060 fiber wad. What I don't know is if I'll get a chance to test them properly before fall. But I might have a ticket into the ARNG range at Guernsey so if that turns out I'll be able to shoot proper targets on a regulation range.
RE: Dan T's last bullet design - Kurt - 07-07-2015
Try those bullets I gave you in that 16 twist.
RE: Dan T's last bullet design - Don McDowell - 07-07-2015
I'll give them a go when I get the rifle back.
RE: Dan T's last bullet design - laowho - 12-24-2015
Does anyone know where someone can buy 450gr to 554gr precast money bullets in .45? He was getting them from Harlan but needs some for testing. Gonna start casting his own and needs them for comparison.
RE: Dan T's last bullet design - Don McDowell - 12-24-2015
www.bigskycastbullets.com
RE: Dan T's last bullet design - laowho - 12-24-2015
Much thanks Don. Ooh--another bullet source.