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Roller - Hiwall55 - 03-18-2017

Picked up a nice roller,44/70, Green Mountain barrel with 17" centers for my scope, sizing die cut with the same reamer that cut the chamber,60 pieces of brass.built by John King. Now I need to know what size wads to get, I'm thinking .450 but would like to know for sure from some of you .44 shooters.
Thanks Bill


RE: Roller - Nuclearcricket - 03-18-2017

Grove dia on a GM barrel should be .446. I would guess that anything from about .448 to .450 would work just fine.
Just curious tho, is it a PP chamber or is it cut for GG and what is the parent case?
Sam


RE: Roller - Kurt - 03-18-2017

Bill.
Is this a .44-70 Maynard chamber? That is a great caliber if it is.
If that chamber has a tight case neck using the chamber reamer for a sizing die is not ideal for use on new unfired brass even if it is annealed because the brass will spring back a little making chambering hard as well as extracting the fired cases once you get the round chambered for a few loadings. I went through this with one of my rifles using a chamber reamer for the sizing die. When I order a die for a tight chamber I also get a matching reamer with a smaller diameter made so this problem does not happen. But once the brass has been fired a few times the chamber reamer die will work great.
One thing in your favor is your roller it will came a round in but you might need your rod to get the fired case back out for a couple shots.
Kurt


RE: Roller - Old Jim - 03-18-2017

I remember runnin' across't an old geezer @ the Quigley years ago that packed a 2# rock along to help chamber his stuborn loads in an old roller he loved to use. I never had that problem Tongue !

I load bullets where they engrave the leade about 30 thousands in my roller, using the block to cam that last little bit.

Jim


RE: Roller - Kurt - 03-18-2017

Smile I saw a guy at the Q closing the block on a roller using a plastic mallet Smile


RE: Roller - Hiwall55 - 03-18-2017

Just getting out of the sticks down here South of Troy.
Kurt I don't think it's a Maynard because the brass is made from 45/70 and trimmed to 2.1
Sam it comes with a BACO money mould that is .446 and 500 grains and it's a greaser . Barrel is 1 in 18!twist
The silly wet shoot was real hard the winds were switchyand I shot a 15 but high score was a 17 , so I don't feel too bad.
I ordered some wads at .451 so I hope that works out.
Bill


RE: Roller - Old Jim - 03-18-2017

Bill was here at the house yesterday, and when he went out the door, I suggested that he should shoot well.

Looks as though he took my advice, pretty dang good shootin' Bill Big Grin!


RE: Roller - Kurt - 03-18-2017

Bill

Kelley O Roos shot a 44-70 Maynard based on the .45-70 case and he was tough to beat with that rifle. This silhouette rifle I'm working on now was a tough diction between the .44-70 Maynard and the .40-65.
I was coming down to Effingham next weekend for the first match of the season but things got in the way again.
Kurt


RE: Roller - Hiwall55 - 03-18-2017

Kurt I know life does get in the way but you got to go with the flow. I may have to work next Saturday so I may not get to go either.628703114 on GunBroker has pics


RE: Roller - Old Jim - 03-18-2017

The one and only "MLV" had this rifle for sale on GB!

Appears to be sold!