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Watch yer topknot
08-20-2014, 12:14 PM,
#31
RE: Watch yer topknot
Oh, & don't forget to eliminate ALL offhand shooting at ALL matches as the muzzles aren't "staying on the range" so to speak. We'd sure hate to see "one leave the range" now wouldn't we? Those muzzles waving around in the air & all Big Grin

Control your firearm & keep the muzzle "on the range" Big Grin

Some people shouldn't be parents eitherBig Grin
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08-20-2014, 12:50 PM,
#32
RE: Watch yer topknot
it all boils down to education,
people build sticks so someday they can maybe attend a nra match,
Tell them they need to learn to control the sticks .
people watch an old guy with a spaghetti sharps or a roller load with the hammer back and guess it is ok .
Tell em the whole story, again be safe dont load til you are ready, and you are safe.
people get distracted
Tell them to practice more handling the firearm until being safe is second nature,
this is where a shooters meeting is a good thing..

now the shooter also must have the responsibility to run his equipment and rifle correctly and safely , and they need to be proficient with its use.
PRACTICE BEFORE YOU GO TO THE MATCH,
all this sounds good but is extremely hard to enforce, .Shooters meetings before the range time would be nice, but time consuming, ie the range doesnt open til 0900 so if you want to shoot be there at 0800 and go over the safty issues. with all the people attending it might be the way of it in the future.
Dean Becker
only one gun but they are 74s
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08-20-2014, 01:27 PM,
#33
RE: Watch yer topknot
Dean, maybe those folks that put on the matches may want to consider printing up a sheet containing range safety rules to give out to each shooter at the time they register, and signing a thing on the registration sheet that they did receive and intend to read and follow that same said sheet?
A wise man can always be found alone. A weak man can always be found in a crowd.
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08-20-2014, 01:45 PM,
#34
RE: Watch yer topknot
Don, I don't think that is a bad idea. Yes it is a little bit more paperwork for those running the match but it beats the hell out of all the paperwork and other things that will happen if there is an accident.
Sam
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08-20-2014, 02:25 PM,
#35
RE: Watch yer topknot
Sam I don't know that it would prevent an accident, but in the event that someone had to be asked to kindly remove themselves from the range due to unsafe practices, it would provide a bit of "enforcement" as it were.
A wise man can always be found alone. A weak man can always be found in a crowd.
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08-20-2014, 03:39 PM,
#36
RE: Watch yer topknot
the document could be a good thing , but as you say it in it self wont stop an accident,however if there was a 1/2 dozen simple rules and they had to read and sign it ,then whoever whined could be excused from the match,
easy common sense rules , make them think if even for a couple seconds, sort of a refresher.
Dean Becker
only one gun but they are 74s
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08-20-2014, 03:50 PM,
#37
RE: Watch yer topknot
Yup often times that's all that's needed is just to que someone to think about..
A wise man can always be found alone. A weak man can always be found in a crowd.
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08-20-2014, 04:00 PM,
#38
RE: Watch yer topknot
Sure doesn't hurt-
I have to sign one with the ranges I shoot at here.
Might be of some benefit in any legal action to the range/host, as the result of 'stupid' on part of a participant ...
Gary
Hav'n you along, is like losing two good men.....
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08-20-2014, 10:10 PM,
#39
RE: Watch yer topknot
(08-20-2014, 11:33 AM)bryany Wrote: Some folks can't physically shoot prone, that's a fact. There is also no limit to the length of your cross stick pins in gong matches. Make them a foot long for places like Alliance or Casper where the ground is soft. Make another pair for Quigley or other ranges where the ground is firm.

The shooter still needs to control the firearm and never have a cartridge chambered until the rifle is on the sticks and pointed downrange. Every shooter and spotter on the line should be acting as range safety officers. You can suggest nicely that someone not do what they are about to do but if it becomes an immediate safety concern call a cease fire and remove them from the line without concern of hurt feelings. I'd rather make someone mad at me than let them shoot someone on the line. I can't imagine any match director not backup up such a process.
looks like bryany has it figured out that is the way it should be ..
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08-20-2014, 10:37 PM,
#40
RE: Watch yer topknot
(08-20-2014, 10:10 PM)knobsmt Wrote:
(08-20-2014, 11:33 AM)bryany Wrote: The shooter still needs to control the firearm and never have a cartridge chambered until the rifle is on the sticks and pointed downrange. Every shooter and spotter on the line should be acting as range safety officers. You can suggest nicely that someone not do what they are about to do but if it becomes an immediate safety concern call a cease fire and remove them from the line without concern of hurt feelings. I'd rather make someone mad at me than let them shoot someone on the line. I can't imagine any match director not backup up such a process.
looks like bryany has it figured out that is the way it should be ..

As I said before this is preached at the matches I give the saftey speechs at (5 of them), Ad nauseam. Almost word for word.

As it should be.Big Grin
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