here is what I do not understand

[powderburner]

I would ck the fore end and see if there is a spot that is rubbing along the barrel ,if you are sure of your hold. also you should see light between the action and the fore end if it is a sharps.. your horizontal could also be caused by changing light conditions shifting clouds etc.

[chaneylake]

Have you tried shooting with a spotter -------both to help you concentrate on "shooting"-----forget about everything except form and follow through-----------a spotter "coach" will notice things in form that you simply can't be aware of.

I have a bad habit of simply tensing up as i work through a string-----------my spotter will remind me and allow me to settle back into good form.

Dave

trust me, there is no one in my area that has any earthly idea as to what I am doing

I have been shooting with a firm right hand grip with rifle pulled tight into shoulder, I will ease up some of the pressure, as far as keeping head down and good follow through, I feel real comfortable in this area, this was something that I learned or taught myself during 13 years of competition skeet shooting even though we are talking about 2 different shooting disciplines

"I will ease up some of the pressure"
WHY do you do this? Hold hard.....
Gary

I eased up to a normal hold on 20 rounds, it will not take me long to shoot this way, I adapt to change real well as long as its not "Obamas Change"

[Joe Gussenhoven]

Okay, high shots on the second target were sighters. I think the rifle and load is fine. Looks like you're not allowing for wind, thats all. Very few shooters can do better than that without windflags. Some shooters cant or dont read windflags. Some matches dont afford windflags. Some ranges only have a couple range flags. What I'm trying to say is, its a GD wind flag problem. Concentrate on the wind conditions more. Try a dry last patch too, just to see what happens.

Joe.

[chaneylake]

Joe, being so new to this sport, just about 2 years learning from scratch, I am not even thinking about the wind at this point. Usually the wind in West Tennessee is just not that much, on the targets posted I noted the wind as blowing into my face at 0-2 mph. I will start working on the wind lessons this winter when the range at my home is a cross wind or angleing in or out

[Joe Gussenhoven]

Joe, being so new to this sport, just about 2 years learning from scratch, I am not even thinking about the wind at this point. Usually the wind in West Tennessee is just not that much, on the targets posted I noted the wind as blowing into my face at 0-2 mph. I will start working on the wind lessons this winter when the range at my home is a cross wind or angleing in or out

A handy tool to have is a wind chart like this.
Keep one in your range box.

It's amazing how much just a little wind will move your bullets POI. Then there's lady luck. I was working on my second perfect 250 = (ten in a 1.5 inch bull) last month. Had 9 in the 25 bull. Before the tenth shot I did the same as the others exactly. 10th shot went high left into the 23 ring. Looked to my right and all the wind flags were just lifting up, indicating a wind from 5 oclock. The closer you want to shoot (tight groups/high scores) the more you have to detect and correct for the very small changes in wind.
Looks to me like your rifle, hold and technique is good. Time to work on the wind.

Hope this helps.

Joe.

[chaneylake]

is there a book on this Joe, if so the name, also name of wind chart and where to purchase, by the time our rural neighborhood match comes up aka "The Big Whiskey", it will be November and we will have plenty of wind

I am not using a scope, all others in the Big Whiskey are shooting modern rifles with scopes

[Semtav]

I assume these are in relation to no wind?? Notice how a left quartering tailwind will knock the bullet down a bit? What happens when you go from a 5 mph left quartering tailwind to a 10 mph left quartering tailwind? Does it knock it down some more??

[Joe Gussenhoven]

Give Champions Choice a call about books. They have books by Jame R Owens and Lanny Basham. May have others. They're in Lavergne Tennessee. (800) 345-7179

Joe.

[Semtav]

I've got the books. It was a rhetorical question.
Most of the books don't jive with low velocity corrections

[Don McDowell]

Semtav, jump onto Wyomingbpcr.com, look at Gentleman Jims page (jimbo terry) and get ahold of him about buying one of his windcharts. Very good info there. Not real sure but I think you can also grab one of those off of Shilohs site.