Bullet size quandry

[powderburner]

I pulled apart an origional 45-70 ctg..took it out of a sealed white box with a green label on it dated in the 1870s the bullet was grooved rather than built like the new greasers and was 446 diamater,

[Don McDowell]

That's interesting as all get out.

[Stephen Borud]

Dean what did the bullet weigh? Was it similar to the military 45-70?

Stephen

[Ironramrod]

Dean, Do you happen to have a picture of that bullet? If not, would you describe it for us, and what the grooves look like? Thanks.

Regards
IR

[powderburner]

I did , and sent it but it didnt show up.
it looked like a patched bullet with grooves cut into it ,or rolled into it. round nose flat base , and weighed about 419 or 417 gns. no pic sorry , it was before good cell phones. powder was course and not badly compacted but solid enough to not pour out. didnt disturb it. the round and box was not mine , ,when I go up this fall I will measure it again and photograph it and the box for yall.
I do remember it was a wra,,

[Kurt]

Here is an original Sharps 400 gr two groove bore diameter mould. Notice that they did not have a bore riding step.

[Don McDowell]

That flat nose is interesting on a Sharps bullet.

[Stephen Borud]

Was that mold sleeved?

[Kurt]

Stephen I don't know. It's not my mould. The picture and info was sent to me by a friend. I think the outline might be a vent line that starts at the nose.
Kurt

[Don McDowell]

That almost looks like a dead ringer for the bullet Winchester used in the 40-6o or 45-75