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Any reason not to try this paper
04-23-2017, 08:07 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-23-2017, 08:14 PM by Randy Bohannon.)
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Any reason not to try this paper
I have several box's of this paper,Any reason to not try it or just get the Seth Cole 55 W paper and be done with it ?
I will be p.p.ing a .40 cal .395 straight sided nose pour Brooks mold/bullet,16:1 alloy(Rotometals) paper mic's. at .002" with digital caliper.
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04-23-2017, 09:03 PM,
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RE: Any reason not to try this paper
I'd give it a try. I've been experimenting with Eesleeck 0.002" paper and it works very well.

Chris.
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04-23-2017, 09:35 PM,
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RE: Any reason not to try this paper
It will be a hard push into the throat, especially if the chamber has a 45 degree chamber end. It will be .003" over bore with that paper.
.0018" paper for that bullet would be a little friendlier. .003 over bore would be a snug push even with a Highwall action that will cam the round in to help seat the round.
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04-23-2017, 09:39 PM,
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RE: Any reason not to try this paper
Is the Seth Cole 55 W in the right direction ? The rifle is a Shiloh so with that throat is there a preferred paper I should look at ?
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04-23-2017, 10:06 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-23-2017, 10:08 PM by Kurt.)
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RE: Any reason not to try this paper
I don't have Seth Cole paper but the cockle finish long grain is a is a very good paper for patching, but a lesser diameter bullet would be better for it so you don't have to cam the round into the chamber or size down the bullet. Sizing down a bullet is the last thing I like doing. But that diameter would smile breach seating that .403" diameter bullet.
I use Southworth 9# 29-D that is 75% cotton .0018"thick.
Southworth 7-1/2# 8-D is 100% cotton .0018 thick. and 700 CPL copy paper 25% cotton .0016" 9#
I have a .40 bullet that is .395" and .0018 is still a snug fit.
There is always a custom sizing die but that is the last thing I would use.
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04-23-2017, 10:25 PM,
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RE: Any reason not to try this paper
I"ld sure give it try.
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04-23-2017, 11:00 PM,
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RE: Any reason not to try this paper
randy,
the paper should be good for patching bullets.
patched dry, it will make your bullet oversize as kurt says.
only a trial will tell what diameter the bullets will be when wet patched with some stretch, but they will be smaller than when dry patched.
you need to try it in your gun.
if the bullet is tight in the bore, it can push back on the powder on chambering the round, altering compression.
it is hard to load pp ammo with enough neck tension to avoid this.
if this paper fits, it is tougher than seth cole.
8lb seth cole will add 0.005 when patched wet.
2 boxes is nearly enough to invest in a smaller mould - there are a lot of patches there.
either that or a ch4d sider die.
one issue with "corraseable" or "eraseable" paper is the coating on it that allows spelling corrections.
when wet patching, some of these coatings have been known to glue layers of patch together, or even glue the patch to the bullet.
again, only a trial will tell.
keep safe,
bruce.
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04-24-2017, 12:14 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-24-2017, 12:21 AM by Randy Bohannon.)
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RE: Any reason not to try this paper
I have 5 box's of this paper 8.5" X 11" and 3 box's of legal size Plover, I had been told that it was good paper for patching bullets.I bought every box they had for $2.00 a box. I just didn't do my math right when ordering the mold and it was an expensive mold.I just wet patched a handful of 1.135 long 360 gr. bullets and dried them on a hot plate I am getting a very nice slip fit in the case resized with RCBS dies the Redding dies size the case down to small, fire formed brass is to big.All brass is 2.5" chamfered Captech and RMC.I set the Redding dies for the RMC brass to give the perfect tension for a nice slip fit and not fall out.
As has been pointed out they are bit to fat to chamber with thumb pressure.BTW this is a 40-70 SS. Thinking mold # 5 for this rifle is in my future, really want to make the paper patch work.What size mould should I use and if you gentlemen were buying a mold for this rifle what are your recommendations ? Thank you all for your time.
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04-24-2017, 12:23 AM,
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RE: Any reason not to try this paper
You might want to try a couple of things. Cut your patch to 3/4 inch. Then seat the bullet just deep enough that the rifling engraves the leading edge of the patch.
I shoot a 360 gr. .400 dia wrapped in seth cole in the CSA Hepburn, that rifle has a very short throat and all bullets have to be seated pretty deep.
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04-24-2017, 12:31 AM,
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RE: Any reason not to try this paper
I will try that, current o.a.l is 3.23 with 65gr. O.E. 1,5 and .280 compression with .30 Walters wad.The upside to p.p. is pulling bullets and making adjustments.When dry patching how is the tag end secured ?
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