Windage globe sight

[Kevin Alexander]

Where I shoot, I'm constantly using up all my windage on my Soule sight. I'm thinking about getting a new front globe sight with windage on it to help give me a slight edge over guys who don't have one on those windy days at the rams. Any suggestions or sights to stay away from. Thanks in advance.

[Don McDowell]

I would maybe offer that you go the other way and replace the rear sight with one of MVA's Buffalo Soul sights. The problem with the windage fronts, you have to remember to move it opposite of the way you want the bullet to go, and then if the wind quits in the middle of the string you're stuck with x amount of minutes that you have to break position and look at the muzzle of the gun to get back to zero.

[Kevin Alexander]

I would maybe offer that you go the other way and replace the rear sight with one of MVA's Buffalo Soul sights. The problem with the windage fronts, you have to remember to move it opposite of the way you want the bullet to go, and then if the wind quits in the middle of the string you're stuck with x amount of minutes that you have to break position and look at the muzzle of the gun to get back to zero.

All my rifles have Baldwin Soule sights. This particular rifle has a junk front sight that needs replaced anyway. Remembering that the front sight is moved opposite of what the rear sight does is easy, at the beginning of a very windy match, I'd just put in a few minutes to help. Getting a different rear Soule that the windage rotates the opposite of the Baldwin would, could, and can be devastating to my concentration on the line in a relay. I've watched several guys spin the windage the wrong way.

Anyway, that's my idea of how it would work. I wish Baldwin would make one.

[bruce moulds]

kevin,
don makes a good point.
windage foresights are just another thing to go wrong, and we all know and understand murphy's law.
however this issue is a 2 edged sword.
firstly the issue of spindrift can be dealt with using a windage sight.
a typical 45 cal has about 2 moa spindrift at 1000 yds, to the right in in a r.h. twist.
the best way to establish a dead wind zero is at 25 or 50 yds where wind deflection is minimal.
this will be good for 100.
when shooting at 1000, you simply put 2 moa left on the foresight.
only shooting out to 500 this might not be such an issue, as it is only 1 moa there.
however, at 1000, 2 moa is 1/3 the way from centre to the edge of the target, and a slightly less than perfect wind call could cause a miss.
a rear sight that has 40 moa each side can be a problem at long range.
if you need 40 moa left wind, your sight will be 0.4" off centre to the left.
with the sight at its 1000 setting, this can leave very little face contact with the stock, even with a strap on cheek piece.
if you can put 30 on the front this problem goes away.
if the wind changes drastically, a front adjustment will be required, particularly if it goes across centre.
this is where having the marks on the back of the sight would be an advantage, but usually there is a spirit level in the way, an absolute necessity for long range.
whatever sight you get, make sure distant thunder can supply inserts for it.
I require inserts from 3.0 mm to 4.2 mm in 0.2 increments for our Australian fullbore targets and sil, with a reasonably thick annulus.
his inserts have been invaluable.
I also use a Baldwin sight for the way it turns, as I also shoot fclass with a scope.
having 2 different direction sights can drive you mental
knowing what is on the sight is vitally important, and this is virtually impossible when you are trying to remember which way to turn the dial.
keep safe,
bruce.

[Kurt]

I'm in favor for the MVA #112 Spirit Level with Windage Sight. I use one and changing the windage is the same direction for the front and back. Right wind clock wise or up how ever you want to look at it.
If the prevailing wind is steady during the sighter shots I have the tang on zero and adjust the front for zero. Or I use the front for a no wind zero to correct spin drift at three ranges. 300, 600 and 1000. Those settings are in my brain book for reference.
Now what I don't like about the #112 sight is the hold down clip. That thing catches everything and I have lost a insert once for not paying attention.
I wish Baldwin, DT or MVA would make a low profile wing gauge front with a screw insert lock. I would have one on every match rifle I use.
I don.t like the Stevens sight because the level is obstructing the tunnel to much. The Winchester sight would be the same as the Stevens with the level key.

[Kevin Alexander]

Ok, thanks for your input. I appreciate it. Good info.
Now, let me ask this another way. I'm going to buy a front globe sight that has windage adjustment for shooting BPCR silhouettes. Any particular brand to stay away from?

Thanks again.

[Kurt]

There aren't to many to choose from with windage that are NRA legal for silhouette, Like the high power match rifles use or the Olympic matches.

For Silhouette I would go with just a regular globe with out the windage. With a Buffalo Soule you have 44 MOA of windage on either side and if you need 44 MOA of windage the rams would blow over from that much wind
I never had full windage in my Soule sights to run out of adjustment at some of the good Montana breezes 30 MPH plus at the gong matches

[Kevin Alexander]

There aren't to many to choose from with windage that are NRA legal for silhouette, Like the high power match rifles use or the Olympic matches.

For Silhouette I would go with just a regular globe with out the windage. With a Buffalo Soule you have 44 MOA of windage on either side and if you need 44 MOA of windage the rams would blow over from that much wind
I never had full windage in my Soule sights to run out of adjustment at some of the good Montana breezes 30 MPH plus at the gong matches

I shoot in Kansas. 40 mph cross wind can occur, or stronger. 20 to 30 in the summer is usual. Yes, some of the rams do blow over, that's normal also.
Like I said, I need a new front globe sight anyway. I am not buying a new Soule sight for $500, especially when I've got a good Baldwin.

[Kurt]

Well that's fine. You have your mind set then you should do it. The MVA #112 is a very good sight.