Short Patch!

[Rick Mulhern]

Once upon a time I was wondering why I was getting a tat of lead in the bore of my Shiloh 45 2 7/8 and after recovering this bullet....it was as plain as the nose on an elephant's face! This is an alloy of 1-16 kicked in the azz by 102 grs. KIK 2F.


Shortptch by Sharps45 2 7/8, on Flickr

[Don McDowell]

Yessir you got to get that patch up to the ogive.
Likely you'll have to add 2-3 minutes with it patched longer.

[Lumpy Grits]

Rick, what did you shoot that bullet into to keep it in such great shape?
Gary

[bobw]

Fg KIK + longer patch

[Kurt]

Rick.

I really think you got your bullets mixed up and grabbed a 1/40 or softer one or found the wrong bullet. That center bullet is nothing I have ever looked at shot with 1/16 alloy the way that nose was set back. That looks like it was setback at least .100" +
The left bullet looks more like 1/16 alloy with the shallow land cuts.
But I really cant see it good enough because the photo is a little dark.
A soft alloy bullet gets set back more in the ogive then the base gets bumped up. There is less room in the bore to bump up a base then at the ogive.
When The Money bullet hype first started I ran many of then into a snow bank to see what it would take to hold the integrety of the nose with all sorts of powder charges and the harder the bullet got was pushed the more the money nose looked like a postell or just plain got bent or twisted by the torque.

Kurt

[Rick Mulhern]

Kurt

All three are 1-40! The two bullets at left were run through a Fred Cornell swage die and taken down from .446" to .444" and patched to an OD of .4480". The bullet on the right is an as cast .446" without having gone through the .444 swage die! It wouldn't chamber with the as seen paper. I just used it beside the other two bullets to show the length of the patch as that length was used on the other two as shown bullets. I measured the length of the two at the left before firing but right now I can't recall what the length was HOWEVER.....I discovered a long time ago...even with 1-16 alloy that if patched bullets are .002-.003" less than the bore diameter that at upset they get shorter! Bullets patched to bore size or say .001" over with a tight fit do not get much shorter than the as cast length. I can recall a dissertation that KW did reference the use of the .446" bullet diameter a long time back over on the Shiloh board whereby he addressed the fact that larger diameter bullets were not affected as much as those of smaller diameter. Recently I have stopped running the as cast bullets through the swage die to reduce the OD and with the 1-40 alloy accuracy is excellent.

Lumpy

Those two bullets were shot into what could be called 'liquified gumbo'!!

[Lumpy Grits]

"Those two bullets were shot into what could be called 'liquified gumbo'!!"
AKA mud??
Gary

[Rick Mulhern]

"Those two bullets were shot into what could be called 'liquified gumbo'!!"
AKA mud??
Gary

Mud!

[Lumpy Grits]

THX
Gary