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RE: Any reason not to try this paper - bruce moulds - 04-24-2017
now that you've patched some, you know how much the paper adds to a bullet.
easy to get the correct mould next time..
kal will make you a custom 2 diameter mould that will patch to fit a fired case in the back, AND slide into the bore at the front.
you need to contact him re custom work.
he will send you a drawing so that parties are on the same page.
suggest an elliptical nose 1.5 calibres long.
lovely cartridge.
keep safe,
bruce,
RE: Any reason not to try this paper - Don McDowell - 04-24-2017
(04-24-2017, 12:31 AM)Randy Bohannon Wrote: I will try that, current o.a.l is 3.23 with 65gr. O.E. 1,5 and .280 compression with .30 Walters wad.The upside to p.p. is pulling bullets and making adjustments.When dry patching how is the tag end secured ?
Just leave enough paper over the edge that about 1/3 of the bullet base is exposed in the "hole", as you roll the patch on, pick the bullet up and using thumb pressure just roll the edge over the bullet. Should look sort of like a shotgun crimp when you're done.
Thing I don't like about dry patching those base folds can come undone rather quickly when seating the bullet in a tight case. Keep plenty of extra patches on hand as you load, you'll probably need to re wrap 2 or 3 out of 50.
Be sure to chamfer the inside of the case mouth , makes loading and shooting with accuracy much easier.
RE: Any reason not to try this paper - Don McDowell - 04-24-2017
Brooks makes the dual diameter moulds as well. I like those.
Base should be about .002 under bore for the best results.
RE: Any reason not to try this paper - Gunlaker - 04-24-2017
Randy if you can get someone to make you a custom sizing die, you can reduce the bullet diameter so that it works with that paper.
I often resize .446" bullets to 0.445" and have even gone from .446" down to .444", but do it in two steps, 0.001" at a time.
This'll be a fair bit cheaper than a new mold. I lubricate my bullets with RCBS case lube and push them through a Fred Cornell push through sizer die. The bullets are then rinsed in hot water to get the case lube off.
Chris.
RE: Any reason not to try this paper - Randy Bohannon - 04-24-2017
I have a Lee push through sizing die any reason to not pass a patched bullet through ? It is a .401 die. I have seen this done on You Tube for smokeless p.p.ing.Don, should i order another mold should I get another adjustable or a specific weight ? Thank you all for the great ideas and wisdom.
RE: Any reason not to try this paper - Kurt - 04-24-2017
Randy you want to remember that you cant compress lead., you can only make it flow to the least resistance. Running a patched bullet through you have paper folded under and it has a tendency to not start straight in the push through die. If you have to order a push through custom made have them make the die with a tapered inlet at least .400" before it gets to the final diameter. This will reduce the bullet evenly on all sides. You can take that Lee die and find someone with a lathe and have him polish the taper in for you. I do this with my push through dies.
Chris mentioned to do it in steps and he is right. two thousands is what I find good.
RE: Any reason not to try this paper - Don McDowell - 04-24-2017
(04-24-2017, 11:09 AM)Randy Bohannon Wrote: I have a Lee push through sizing die any reason to not pass a patched bullet through ? It is a .401 die. I have seen this done on You Tube for smokeless p.p.ing.Don, should i order another mold should I get another adjustable or a specific weight ? Thank you all for the great ideas and wisdom.
Randy IMHO you're good to go if you're using that bullet for target and accuracy work. A smaller diameter, or the dual diameter would maybe be a better deal for a hunting bullet, but not necessarily.
I also have a .396 dia. 410 gr money bullet that shoots lights out in the 40-65 and the 40-70. I've had some stability issues with it at 600 in windy conditions from the 40-70, but doesn't seem to bother in the 40-65..
The .400 dia. 360 gr bullet doesn't seem to care if the wind is blowing or not, and when the exposed patch is treated with jojoba oil can be shot for good accuracy by blow tubing for the only fouling control.
I would counsel you to try a batch of those you have just as they are, and see just what they do. If you're shooting a grease groove bullet of the same weight bring your powder charge up 2 -3 grs.