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.348Win + TrailBoss = No Joy!!
08-16-2015, 12:16 PM,
#11
RE: .348Win + TrailBoss = No Joy!!
(08-16-2015, 11:55 AM)Lumpy Grits Wrote: Mike-Unique was the very first smokeless powder ever put on the market for us reloaders in 1898.
Gary
Gary, No argument intended. Phil Sharpe's book on Handloading shows Bullseye as introduced in '98, with Unique in 1900. Either way, it's a grand old powder. I like it in the .44/40 for revolver loads as well as in the .45 Colt and the .38 Special too. Shoot sharp, Mike
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08-16-2015, 02:56 PM,
#12
RE: .348Win + TrailBoss = No Joy!!
Mike-Alliant Powder who is todays maker of Bullseye sez it first came out in 1913.
http://www.alliantpowder.com/products/po...lseye.aspx

You are correct about Unique be'n first sold in 1900 under the Laflin & Rand name

Gary
Hav'n you along, is like losing two good men.....
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08-16-2015, 03:30 PM,
#13
RE: .348Win + TrailBoss = No Joy!!
Gary, Alliant might be right about Bullseye, or today's Bullseye. Phil Sharpe says there was Bullseye 1 and Bullseye 2, so we can't be sure which one was continued to the Hercules days. One thing for sure, a can of Bullseye lasts a long time. I've still got some cans of the old powders with $3 price tags on them. Shoot sharp, Mike
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08-16-2015, 03:35 PM,
#14
RE: .348Win + TrailBoss = No Joy!!
THX-I never knew about B-1 and B-2 offerings.
Do you know why this was done?
Gary
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08-16-2015, 03:42 PM,
#15
RE: .348Win + TrailBoss = No Joy!!
To add to the confusion, and supports your 1898 date for the introduction of Bullseye is this source.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_Inc.

Gary
Hav'n you along, is like losing two good men.....
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08-16-2015, 03:48 PM,
#16
RE: .348Win + TrailBoss = No Joy!!
I got a Win. 71, .348 WCF in 1954 +-, and a couple of boxes of factory loads, 200 and 250 gr Silvertips. Grand rifle ! Only game claimed by it was a few whitetails, no challenge, and a 7x6 point bull elk. The bull fell to a single 250 gr Silvertip load @ about 50 yds, in heavy black timber up on Yellowjacket Creek, Idaho. Near Elmer's home. That bulls rack was so wide, I don't know to this day how he ever got thru that thick stuff. Quartered him out and carried him out on our young backs Big Grin.

AH, the good ol' days,
That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it!
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08-16-2015, 03:55 PM,
#17
RE: .348Win + TrailBoss = No Joy!!
(08-16-2015, 03:42 PM)Lumpy Grits Wrote: To add to the confusion, and supports your 1898 date for the introduction of Bullseye is this source.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_Inc.

Gary

Gary, Phil Sharpe must have reviewed that web site when he wrote his book Handloading in 1938. If so, he was way ahead of us all!! Good doin's. Shoot sharp, Mike
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08-16-2015, 03:57 PM,
#18
RE: .348Win + TrailBoss = No Joy!!
(08-16-2015, 03:55 PM)Mike Wrote:
(08-16-2015, 03:42 PM)Lumpy Grits Wrote: To add to the confusion, and supports your 1898 date for the introduction of Bullseye is this source.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_Inc.

Gary

Gary, Phil Sharpe must have reviewed that web site when he wrote his book Handloading in 1938. If so, he was way ahead of us all!! Good doin's. Shoot sharp, Mike

Big GrinBig GrinTongue
Gary
Hav'n you along, is like losing two good men.....
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08-16-2015, 03:58 PM,
#19
RE: .348Win + TrailBoss = No Joy!!
(08-16-2015, 03:48 PM)Old Jim Wrote: I got a Win. 71, .348 WCF in 1954 +-, and a couple of boxes of factory loads, 200 and 250 gr Silvertips. Grand rifle ! Only game claimed by it was a few whitetails, no challenge, and a 7x6 point bull elk. The bull fell to a single 250 gr Silvertip load @ about 50 yds, in heavy black timber up on Yellowjacket Creek, Idaho. Near Elmer's home. That bulls rack was so wide, I don't know to this day how he ever got thru that thick stuff. Quartered him out and carried him out on our young backs Big Grin.

AH, the good ol' days,

Jim, We could say the .348 was too powerful for deer. Mine sure never left any survivors! I do believe it was the finest lever action ever made although I do have a lot of respect for the outstanding Savage 99. Shoot sharp, Mike
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08-16-2015, 06:23 PM,
#20
RE: .348Win + TrailBoss = No Joy!!
Thanks folks for all the great info!

Unique is my GoTo powder in the 45-70 and 38-55 for light target loads. 12g under a 405 in the 45-70 and 9g under a 250g in the 38-55......Won many a side match at CAS matches with these loads.

Think I might just leave the 348 as a boomer...using recommended slow rifle powder.......too many other fish to fry!
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