Hello All,

[Mike]

Doug, Just so you know, the fellow "Creedmoor" who is selling that Paul Jones mold also has a 457132 and a .45 caliber Saeco 480 grainer for sale. Look at the other things he offers. Maybe you can combine purchases to at least save postage. Shoot sharp, Mike

[laowho]

Well Mike,

That's the 132 I've been eyeing and failing that BACO has the mould, but I gotta ask...

Everyone seems to be sayin the Lyman moulds drop .457 in strait 20:1, and that they're basing their .458 drop on the Lyman #2 alloy. Is this true?

I'm tryin to make this next/last mould count for all it's worth, so am considerin 3 criteria:

+ 500gr (have the 385/480/500)
different maker (maybe RCBS) (have 2 Lyman and 1 Graf)
fill out my mix to have all categories/applications covered (range, target and silhouette)

Really leanin toward the 132--figure the 124 for 300 yds, the 125 will pull off silhouette and maybe + 600, the 645 for target and possibly out to 1k in flat conditions, and the 132 for a Postell and windy conditions. Only problem in all this is the preponderance of Lyman undersized drops unless I use Lyman #2, but for long range and Postell I know I only want straight lead/tin?

Almost home. How am I doin? p.s. Know what the "cv" stands for? Cheers, Doug

[Kurt]

If I was to have just one mould that could and can be used for just about everything it would be the original Ideal 457-132. Brooks or Buffalo Arms postell are not the same as the original 132.
The link below, bring up the .458 bullet and look at the 458-525-PB. That bullet is a exact copy of the original Ideal 132 that Walt made when he was still around.

http://www.neihandtools.com/catalog/index.html

Kurt

[laowho]

Kurt,

Pretty sure I've read where you discussed this, but I forgot about the distinction of the "Walt-made" version. Maybe it was in the "If you could have only one" thread? All the reading is startin to get jumbled. But right...the second one, Ideal Replica, 348A. That's it then, and thanks so much. Gonna order it now. Guess when I originally read you I probly let it in one ear & out the other, assuming maybe it wasn't available any longer. Just perfect. Thank you. Doug

[Mike]

Doug, I don't know if 20-1 alloy drops out of a Lyman mold at .457". To me each mold is an individual, to be tailored to the rifle by adjusting the alloy or the load. You really need to do some shooting before assigning different bullets to various distance or conditions. Even so, your enthusiasm is appreciated. And Kurt is right about the new and original Postell bullet shapes. Steve Brooks makes both styles. NEI molds are good ones too. And, no, I don't know what CV stands for, maybe someone else can reply to that. Shoot sharp, Mike

[laowho]

Well I just ordered the NEI. I remember reading about Walt and thinkin "Darn!" What I get for assuming it wasn't available any longer. Thank god Kurt jumped in and saved the day. Really appreciate that. You know what they say--when you assume, you make an ass outa me and uma thurman. I'm tickled that I've got a decent selection to begin immediate comparos with, and this last one is the jewel in the crown. Really glad to have found you guys. Cheers, Doug

[Don McDowell]

You can also change the diameter of a bullet by casting cooler or hotter. That's where a thermometer comes in so handy, you can keep the alloy temp relatively constant and get much better bullets.

[Mike]

Bravo! Now you've got to give us a shooting report. Shoot sharp, Mike

[laowho]

You can also change the diameter of a bullet by casting cooler or hotter. That's where a thermometer comes in so handy, you can keep the alloy temp relatively constant and get much better bullets.

Okay, Thanks Don. I purchased cerro to slug the barrel so lookin forward to learnin the alchemy to go with that, but this is sumthin I haven't come across before. And doin everything I can to never have to size the bullets. Thanks for the tip.

I know, rite? Thanks Mike

[Don McDowell]

If it's a Shiloh you won't need to measure the barrel, it'll be .450 bore and .457 groove. .458 greasers will be your friend.