Time to get ready.........

[Don McDowell]

This has been an ongoing project for me. We bought a couple of those portable sheds the mennonites in Torrington are building. One for Carol's garden stuff, and mine..Finally got mine ready to move into about the time the weather started getting miserable.

[Don McDowell]

Kurt, have you looked deep down in the bottom of stacks of stuff in your badger hole? There's some old Hercules data using unigue ,blu dot and 2400 that will do just exactly what you're wanting to do with the 30-30.

[Kurt]

Yes I have looked in my old Lyman manual it has a section for cast bullets and it lists reduced cast bullet loads with fast burning powder like 8 gr of unique 15 gr of 2400 16 gr of 4227, 4198 and 3031 with 20 grains and this will give me 1400 fps. I gug through some of my .30-30 boxes and I have some loaded with 20 gr of 3031 but man those loads must be from back in the 70's or 80's. I just haven't been shooting the high power rifles except for the 700 .308 or the 99 savage in the .300 savage now and then.
I have a old fridge in the shed I use for storing welding rods and powder and I found a part of a can of 3031 but twisting the lid off it sure bites the nose. $3.87 price on the can.

[Old Jim]

I have an old Unique paper "can" with metal top and bottom with a screw-on lid. Says $4 written on the side in heavy black pencil! Must be from the 1950's or '60s. The lid is rusted on now!

Funny how old geezers hang-on to stuff from the past!

!


Jim

[Kurt]

Jim if you have something you like you just don't get rid of it. I still have some green box CCI primers marked $8.05 a thousand and Alcan primers and that Illinois plant has been down for a long time

[Kurt]

I guess I better get some cases too or I know Miss Savanah will give me a lashing for running out of ammo again LOL.

[Martini2]

Howdy Kurt, I can't help but be entertained (just a might) to see yourself Tip Toeing on the " Lite Side " ;-) Recall I'm more the reformed White powder shooter trying to find way with the "Dark" side As to loads for the 30-30 my preference is 4198, either H or IMR but note there is slight difference in burn specs. If one develops loads with one brand ya may not be good to just throw in the other. A few considerations are. Use SINGLE BASE powder, if you happen to have rounds loaded for Baker in yer wagon while visiting the Q, the posse may go after ya with cleaning rods a wippin. 4227 & 4198 are Single base and bulky enough to not slide around as much inside brass causing verticals. In operation, where possible and allowed, it might smooth velocity differences if on can pass rifle through Port Arms position (muzzle elevated) while drawing a bead. Speaking from recent experiment in 30-06 with cast and Trail Boss, eliminating verticals was not possible even with that flash powder and 150 gr pills. At 15.000 grs my 03A3 fired like a .22. However we were attempting to hit gong at 200 yds. I had the Lyman 48 long slide rear sight @ 70 minutes and only hit gong occasionally when the vertical spread of about 16 inches crossed paths. In 30-30 employing 165gr or slightly high bullet weight should make holding 1400 fps easier with accuracy. Lastly double base powders really warm the barrel up when running multiple shots. I have a good load with 296 powder in 45 Colt and nearly singed my fingers on left hand cradling '92 while firing in "Herd" shoot IE steel silhouettes on ground from 40 to 170 yards or so, all ya can knock down in set time. ;-) Obviously I've drifted a bit Kurt but good luck and of course report your travels back on the "lite side" ;-)

[Snocat]

I guess I better get some cases too or I know Miss Savanah will give me a lashing for running out of ammo again LOL.

Hi everyone. When it got hard to find rem. bulk 170 soft points . I started to tinker with cast Accurate 311170s gas check for the 30-30 . I tried 4895 and 3031 but found Varget really cut the extreme spread with lighter loads. Here's my 200 yd groups.
I also tried Lyman 311008cv 118 gr with trailboss for a chicken load .Also great for varmints around the farm building.

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[Kurt]

Snocat, first of all welcome.
That is a mighty fine hard holding shooter looking at the holes shot @ 200 with that 336. Does it have micro groove or Ballard rifling?
I will take note of your loads. I still have time till June comes around.

[Kurt]

M-2

Yes it takes a while for my eyes to adjust for the brightness walking from the dark side maybe these will help

I have shot this rifle a couple times once with smokeless and again with 3F OE and if I would have looked up what I used I might not have asked this question. 4227 and 4198 is good powder for cast bullets. The load I uses in the picture below was shot with a load that has been on the shelf for ages and the bullets even turned gray that needed a little wiping to make them look younger again before using them in the 93 I shot those in the 336 with micro groove rifling and they did not shoot well but I also had a problem with the .444 Marlin with micro groove till I had Tom at accurate arms make a wide enough bullet for it.
I'm kinda under the weather right now but I will heat up the lead pot in a day or so and head into town and see if I can find some bright flash powder LOL and see if I can lead up the bore some.
Kurt